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Non-Covered Pension - WEP / GPO

Would I Be Able To Get Social Security Benefits Without A Reduction?

I had worked under the Teacher Retirement System of Texas for
27 years, but was grandfathered under the Employment Retirement System (ERS) of Texas and retired with them with a combined total years of 30 years of service. The ERS does not fall under the Windfall E Provision but the Teacher Retirement did. Would I be able to get full social security benefits without have a reduced social security benefit?

Sunday, March 28, 2021 - 07:30

Will Either WEP Or GPO Reduce My Divorced Spouse's Benefits If I Receive A Belgian Government Pension?

At FRA I will start drawing USA Divorced Spouse Social Security Benefits (I was married 20 years and never remarried). I am also eligible for a government pension (SS) from Belgium. Will either WEP or GPO apply and reduce my Divorced Spouse Social Security because of my Belgian govt pension? Thank you in advance.

Friday, March 26, 2021 - 18:15

Why Did Social Security Take Away The Amount Of My Swedish Pension From My Social Security Benefit Here?

I am from Sweden and got to this country December 1979,i had never been in the us before. I worked In Sweden for 7 years before I got to US I worked for a small Swedish with no contact with us.. I started to work in us after I got married in September of 1980 and I worked of and on till I retired in 2019 at age of 67 I worked about 23 years in us. When I applied for my SOC I told that I got a small SOC. From Sweden for the 7 years I worked. Before coming to us and because of that they took of that amount on my us social security and called it windfall, how come??

Friday, March 5, 2021 - 07:37

How Will WEP & GPO Apply In Our Case?

Hi Larry,
As of the writing of this question, I am 52 and my wife is 50. On December 31, 2013 I retired from a Career with the State Police with a full pension. My current pension is roughly $101,000 and increases by $360 per year. When I left the State Police, I took employment in the federal government and remain employed by the federal government. I now have enough quarters for social security benefits and when I go to the mysocialsecurity website it says:

Thursday, March 4, 2021 - 11:02

How Much Will My Social Security Benefit Be Reduced By WEP?

How much will my SS be reduced by WEP? My birthday is 9/29/1952. I qualified for full retirement in 2018 at age 66. I am currently still working. I have 22 qualifying years of paid ss as of 2020. For a few years I taught school and didn't pay into SS. Then I worked for a university and paid into SS. As best as I can figure, my WEP might be a reduction of $358 per month?


Friday, February 19, 2021 - 12:41

Is The Reduction In My Wife's Benefit Due To GPO Correct?

My wife collects social security. A little from her w2 earnings and more from her half of my social security. When her payments started, they were reduced by about $30 per month due to GPO. She worked for about 10 years for the local school district in s part time job. They had a savings plan and my wife contributed about $4000 to it and the school district contributed about $1000. So in less than 3 years, the GPO will eat up all the school districts contribution and in less than 14 years, it would eat up both the schools contribution and my wife’s contribution.

Friday, February 5, 2021 - 11:55

Will My Benefit Be Reduced Due To My Husband's Pension?

Hi Larry,
I receive my deceased spouses firefighter pension. I work full time as a teacher and my pay is subject to social security tax. Will my benefit be reduced due to my husbands pension?


No. Receiving a pension that's based on a spouse's work and earnings could never cause your own Social Security benefits to be reduced.

Best, Jerry

Sunday, January 24, 2021 - 09:53

Why Wasn't The Recent Congressional Bill To Repeal WEP Called For A Vote?

The Social Security Act had 264 cosponsors in the last House of Representatives. Why wasn't it called for a vote? It had bipartisan support to repeal Wep.


I assume you are referring to "H.R. 141 (116th): Social Security Fairness Act of 2019" (, which would amend the Social Security Act to eliminate the Windfall Elimination Provision (WEP) and the Government Pension Offset (GPO) provision.

Saturday, January 23, 2021 - 16:06
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